25 thoughts on “Forbes post, “Yes, Social Security Is An ‘Entitlement'”

  1. Your article seems to make twists and turns. At one point you make it seem like social security is grouped with the same “entitlements” as welfare but then it seems to change course. Journalism is all about spin now and even the spin is not clear.
    Would going to your bank and taking out all your money be considered an “entitlement”…in a way I guess, I AM entitled to it. Not everyone has paid into social security and some cannot draw it. Now disability and supplemental security is different.
    Welfare has rules and standards and not everyone is entitled to it.
    Either way it is clear the republicans are trying to put a spin on the term as you seem to have indicated. But if the trump base is so stupid to not understand how it works or that they are being manipulated, it is their stupidity and ignorance. 70% of America has a brain and will fight for our sic. Sec. also just a side note no one mentions that you CANNOT opt out of paying social security. So allowing the corrupt and racist republicans to be able to touch my $ would infuraiate me and thousands/millions of Americans!!

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    1. Shannon,
      They already have (1 democrat and 2 republican presidents), to the tune of just <$3BILLION. They call it a loan. Which begs the question, "Am I entitled to some interest with my next SS check?"

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    2. Well you lost me when you didn’t include the Democrats in the corrupt group and showed your bigotry by calling republicans racist. There’s a little bit of racism in every person but being republican/ democratic is an ideology and neither one has anything to do with racism

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    3. Government should have never been involved in the first place. All the money each person has paid into the system minus and withdrawals to date should be immediately returned to the people. Then the whole scam would be seen for what it really is, robbing one person to pay another. Therr is no trust fund, congress already spent it, so yes they wilp need to print more to pat people back, but so be it. They already printed 4 trillion to save the banks (quantitative easing) so they should print more to give back what they stole.

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  2. I work all my life and payed into FICA, please do not say that I’m not entitled to my social security and Medicare, no matter what you call it. I agree it should not be called a entitlement, although we, who have worked and payed into it are entitled to it.

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  3. It’s not a entitlement program you
    Work and pay money to put in the program or you keep the money
    And get nothing from social security.
    The politicians just want to get their hands on that lucrative cash.

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  4. This is nothing but think-tank deception of the highest order. You must know damn well that the Republican plan has been to dismantle and decimate social programs forever. They MEAN the word as something that is NOT DESERVED BUT GIVEN
    The anger this brings up in me is massive. Please study SEMANTICS -which Hayakawa wrote about. Oh sorry, he is s Democrat.
    God bless….
    Diogenes

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  5. why is it “very difficult to modify”?…eliminate the cap, (most of the) problem solved (like you say what the bank robber says “it’s where the money is”)…I think you understand what most people hear when they hear “entitlement” is not what you hear (or, in fact, what it seems to mean), so I would hope any politicians discussing the issue either not use the word, or clearly explain each time it’s used what exactly is meant by it…I think you understand, as well, that most Republicans seem intent on destroying SS and other social programs, rather than increasing tax rates to more historical levels (you know, back in the “again” part of “make America great again”…

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  6. As a part of your dealing with the issue of retirement; look at the bigger picture of how the 1% gamed the rules of capitalism to manage the sequence of “failures” followed by reorganized ownership to steal the US economy – using voice-based human manipulation [yes: that’s a real thing]. See GE being digested now.

    As America has been and is being progressively stripped of its assets over the last 30+ years – look then at the impact on retirement. Then – look at the trajectory for your progeny. Then, give me your opinion – privately and/or publicly.

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  7. Various Republicans over the years have talked about Entitlements like Social Security as unearned entitlements, government giveaways, and an unfair burden on taxpayers. They specifically suggested various alternatives that amount to “invest in the stock market to take care yourself so we don’t have to”. Liberals think they understand Republicans to mean that because many Republicans have clearly talked about entitlements in that way. Present and past Republicans are to blame for muddling all of this much more than liberals who are sensitive to attacks on it.

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  8. Social Security is not an entitlement, it’s the purest form of socialism in the U.S. The government decides how much to tax and who to give it to…the definition of socialism.

    I will never come close to receiving the amount of money my employer and I paid I to the system.

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    1. You will if you live past your initial payout. SS was created at a time when the average life span was 65. Now we are talking about people living into their 90’s, so yes, unless your health is bad, you will probably get more back than you and your employer put in.

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  9. 𝐞𝐧·𝐭𝐢·𝐭𝐥𝐞·𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭
    /inˈtīdlmənt,enˈtīdlmənt/Submit
    noun
    the fact of having a right to something.
    ========================================
    By its definition, are you saying the government should take something away from me that 𝗜 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗮 𝗿𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁 𝘁𝗼? Let me guess, Jane the a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶r̶y republican?

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  10. Yes, the US is at high risk to have a highly underfunded mandate (Social Security Entitlement Checks, if it pleases you) turn into a giant fiscal rocky gorge in less than 30 years. More people will be requesting a check than the time/pay/FICA they have paid into it with all inflation considered. Once again….”ENRON-like” failures will repeat in less than five years for those with private retirement, due to failure to enforce or pass reform. Social security was intended to be a safety net before hitting that rock bottom. Cut the net and you will have a multi-million elderly homeless problem!

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  11. Employees and employers must pay the government FICA taxes of 15.3, which is split so each pay half. So you are entitled to receive benefits from your own labors. Amounts you receive are based on your contributions and age at retirement. Medicare eligibility age is 65. Although it still is not free.
    The word games start when people who do not pay into the system, work the required years and receive the same so called entitlement benefits.
    I have seen many first time employees ask: who is FICA and why is he entitled to my money.

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    1. If you don’t pay in to Social Security, you don’t get any SS when you are of age to retire. Ask a teacher on the pension system if they pay into SS or expect to get anything back. Nobody gets the “entitlement” who didn’t pay into it, which is why it is not an entitlement in the Republican sense.

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  12. all retirement programs, federal and local, are now “entitlements” in the conversational sense of that word, not just your technical definition. We all knew our goverments have been spending and promising too much, and so none of them are earned anymore. The earned part was spent on the world’s biggest military… and many other programs etc. no one is receiving any “earned” pensions or benefits anymore…. they are promises that were spent on all kinds of things, and they are not the only unaccrued liability we will face soon enough.

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  13. You are an IDIOT ! An entitlement is essentially money for nothing tax money used to fund programs designed to help the under-privileged or disenfranchised. Social Security is neither social or secure. People like me have paid in FAR more than I will ever get out of this system. To add insult to injury Congress has used it as their private slush fund to the point it will collapse at some point in the future.

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